In discussing The Way with ex-members of other authoritarian groups and from reading accounts from various books and articles and comparing those with my and others experiences in The Way, Ive learned that The Way was not unique in its approach to group-think, control tactics, and practices resulting in emotional, spiritual, and other abuses. We belong to a minority still. As for the Way it is now headed by a woman, Rosalie Rivenstock I belueve. I don't know when God, is going to call me home; I want to make sure God knows that I am as kind, and generous as possible everyday. A jury must decide whether the encounter was consensual, or if an assault occurred. JOIN FOR DONATION. Loy Craig martindale I felt like a shell of a person. Throughout that time, I was reading about various schools of thought regarding different beliefs, including atheism. Or maybe my son was growing his own vast hole. You are trapped in your own head, swirling with other cultic input. For now, in 2017, Im happy with that. ), Over the subsequent eight months after my departure, my husband and our children (at the time ages fifteen and eighteen) cut allegiances with The Way. Two years later, in September, 2010, due to boundary violations (none were sexual), I filed an official complaint with the therapists state licensing board. I joined the ministry in 1974 and I still have my books and other written materials that are based on the truths of Gods words. The Way International, of which I was involved for 12 years, did this and more. The Bible, like all religious scripture, is a collection of fantastical tales. A LA - perhaps they thought this was the "FIEND tracker forum" :)-->. If that was true, it's not too much of a stretch to suppose that, also by law, LCM would rate SOMETHING as severance pay for his 18 yrs as pres, and the 65K was what he and twis lawyers agreed upon. So now you want to bad mouth a ministry you were a part of for so long. For 150 years, Martindale-Hubbell has served as the prime resource for attorneys looking to grow their practice. His work to expose and take down NXIVM is featured in books like Captive by Catherine Oxenberg, Scarred by Sarah Edmonson, The Program by Toni Natalie, and NXIVM. Remember those guys from ECU Charlene? Craig Martindale Blackpool Also known as: craig.codastar Blackpool United Kingdom Craig currently lives in Blackpool, . He and his wife, Kim, live a quiet life in northern California, punctuated by "spending a lot of time walking the dog." Asked if he still enjoys golf, Morton chuckled and said, "None of my body parts work well . Not because he had sex with various women and had one of them buy BDSM stuff online but because he was running a scam. Not surprisingly, I no longer participate with any ex-Way splinter groups, ex-Way online forums, or cult-recovery groups. When I told them I was leaving, I was condemned big time. You can read Carols bloghere. Please use the link below.Prudish people should stay away. There is evidence to indicate that both Rosalie Rivenbark and Ramona Biden played a role in the events leading up to the sexual encounter between Craig Martindale and (Mrs.) Allen. Its people like YOU who relish contention and drama. All are common factors within authoritarian groups. First of all, I think anyone who believes the Bible has got a screw loose, so small wonder theyre susceptible to charlatan for-profit Prophets. Thats all? By Charlene Edge, as well as others, bad-mouthing The Way is not nice. Our children have been able to pursue life without the constraints of Way practices and doctrines. You can post now and register later. Earlier that October, my then fifteen-year old son, his eyes damp with tears, said to me, Mom, I feel empty inside. That was it. These men had seniority to these girls by 20 to 40 years! After the "kid in a shed" thing at Tech, he dropped off the face of the the earth. This memoir on her experiences in The Way International will help readers understand the subtleties and complexities of cultic groups.Michael D. Langone, PhD, Executive Director of the International Cultic Studies Association, Editor ofCulticStudiesReview,Editor-in-Chief ofICSA Today,and Editor ofRecovery from Cults: Help for Victims of Psychological and Spiritual Abuse. The good and evil dichotomy was difficult to wrap my mind around as Id try to reconcile it. This is not Victorian England. However, I believe that someday God is going to judge us for our actions here on earth. to the tune of say $82,000 per year. Our son drifted away within a couple months after my official exit. (Click hereto read a memoir piece that shares a bit about that time in our lives. There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosopy.. My husband also had two different job changes during that time. I was there when Martindale was ousted first his indescretion. I cant recall her exact reply but I do recall her anger at my even questioning and the immediate punishment meted out to myself by her. And so did many around me. Paste as plain text instead, Even now, we listen to the teachings of the Apostle Paul who murdered Christians. The second reason The Way was fraudulent, in my opinion, is that Wierwille plagiarized the work of others and passed it off as his original work. Darkness, emptiness, pain, grief, self-loathing. Everyone in a cult denies it is a cult and defends the cult and its practices. So, you see, I am no neophyte in this venue. 2017. Because it would bury them forever! I have never felt so close to my Heavenly Father. We all have to one day stand before the judgement seat. We wafers are NOT members we were willing participates in a belief system that made more sense than ANY other religion that exists on the earth today. Implementing Biblical principles to live abundantly. In the years following I have become an armchair expert on cults of various kibds, and they are not all religious. Since 2000 Way leadership appears to have kept itself clean in regard to sexual abuses. But a lot of the news coverage I see about Epstein condemns him for his taste in young women and confuses this with criminal behavior. Your previous content has been restored. Guest post by Carol. When people spoke against him, I thought of king David who wanted Basheba so bad he put her husband on the front line. I went to my area leader, questioning this, thinking she would enforce Way policy. Email: [email protected], Nxivm Perv Leader Keith Raniere Taught Rape as a Metaphor for Orgasm, A Frank Report on Undertow and Charlene Edge | Charlene L. Edge, Former Member: The Way International Biblical Ministry Was Rife With Sexual Excesses Just Like Other Cults Frank Report | Never enough glitter, https://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2008/07/writer-in-bridgewater-found-way-out-of.html, The Gold Standard for Frank Report Readers Is to be a Teetotaler Virgin, NYS Child Victims Act Takes Effect Hundreds of Lawsuits Filed. In my view, that claim to special revelation from God was bogus (fraudulent). The perjury raps alone would pull down what's left of their walls of Zion and prevailing woid. Thus, L. Craig Martindale's term as president was characterized by a drastic decline in TWI membership and internal allegations of moral laxity among members, including widespread homosexuality. I read your story until I came to the picture of Rev. I have it on very good information that loyboy is into 3-somes. In hindsight, I felt stuck in adolescence while in The Way. Our mortgage had been under $500 per month. This is in response to Nxivm Perv Leader Keith Raniere Taught Rape as a Metaphor for Orgasm. Anyone who did ask was immediately confronted. There have been times when Ive felt very lost. Almost a year after I filed the complaint, the therapist viciously attacked me online with false allegations and accusations in multiple rants and articles complete with my photograph. Not even his creepy version of B.G. VP plagaruzed. To leave was a tormenting decision riddled with internal chaos. The Way Corps was formed a few years later. In my view, based on my 17 years of experience in The Way and on research Ive done since, The Way was fraudulent primarily because Victor Paul Wierwille, the founder of The Way International, asserted two things. I will say this, Dr. Victor P. Weirwill was the greatest teacher Ive ever known. She was not a prisoner and could have left anytime. By the way, the curious phrase "Grease Spot Cafe" comes from a favorite phrase of L. Craig Martindale, the second president of The Way International. Craig served as Interim Head of Capital Modelling - Hiscox Syndicates and Interim Chief Investment Officer for Hiscox. In spite of the manipulations in The Way, I had many good experiences times filled with rich learning and God moments, regular exposure to some excellent teachings and teachers, and relationships with some wonderful people, an ongoing one being with my husband of over three decades. Allquestions regarding L. Craig Martindale were deemed anathema.no one was allowed to ask. We can Identify it, use the protocol the word gives to try to heal the Body of Christ and if any individual decides they dont want to do right, I have enough sense to leave that person alone. There, that wasnt so hard, was it g? For the previous sixteen years, I had beaten myself up with shame and berated myself over being unable to believe God for healing of my chronic health issues. But this time was not in AWOL fashion as I had attempted two times before in previous decades. Catherine Oxenberg is no prude. Why not credit dictor paul wierwille, "founding president" of their phony "ministry"? I lived in a Way house. He was rich and wanted sweet young things, they were sweet young things who were attracted by a rich and powerful man. News. So he gave her everything she wanted. Livingston manager David Martindale has confirmed his interest in Robbie Deas, but admits he faces competition for the Inverness defender's signature. In effect, she wanted to keep them at her beck and call for more twi-servitude. I was hoping for something juicer! My only involvement with cult-awareness involves a few contacts, sharing on my blogs, and a small amount of social media. Would you get upset at a street pole? Worst of all, after Wierwille died in 1985, shocking reports surfaced of his secret sex ring. Florida Authors and Publishers Association (FAPA), 100 Must-Read Books About Life in Cults and Oppressive Religious Sects, The Frank Report on Charlene Edge and Undertow | Charlene L. Edge, The Gold Standard for Frank Report Readers Is to be a Teetotaler Virgin. I think on the next Way Productions Showcase, they should include a sketch entitled "What Craig Does With His Time But Not Your Money". One hopes that he is giving 20% of his il-gotten gains back to TWI. After a personal tragedy left her bereft, teenaged Charlene rejected faith and family when recruiters drew her into The Way International, a sect led by the charismatic Victor Paul Wierwille. Upload or insert images from URL. Theres a good deal of hypocrisy in this condemnation. The Bible was what we based the truth on. Established in 1988 , its location is wonderful where one can have a view of wide rage snow-capped mountains and can enjoy meals in the outdoor too. We all spoke in tongues after 2 days. Martindale was himself an excellent teacher and his behavior should not be condoned but forgiven. What a waste of human life and air space. Even had an academy of some kind for training broadcasters. Have you ever heard of the term rhetorical question or is that too big of a word and too complicated of a concept for you? Neither were the so-called high times and God moments unique to The Way. Acquiring an in-depth spiritual perception and awareness. View the profiles of people named Craig Martindale. Flirty behavior. For years I struggled with the question,How could something I thought was so good turn out to be so evil? In 1997, we sold our home on which we had a mortgage. His inner circle keep him distanced from us. We were those hippies. By the end of 2009, my physical health had improved to the point that I was able to take up my teenage dream of long-distance hiking and backpacking. Martindale warned his followers of the dangers of breaking commitments to the ministry by saying one would be " a grease spot by midnight" if he forsook his oaths. Frank Parlato is an investigative journalist. And our daughter quit going to Fellowships around May, 2006. In October, 2005, after 28 years of loyalty and serving as a lay leader at various levels for over fifteen of those years, I exited The Way.