I have both and have taken all of my fast .30 elk with them. It worked fine for long range deer hunting, but elk hunters wanted more bullet. So my final hunting setup only weighs 8 pounds, 8 ounces. H4350 130 grain Barnes TSX 2980 fps in 22 inch barrel. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. Its been one of the best selling, popular all-round hunting cartridges in the U.S. Much of its appeal is reasonable recoil, fairly significant muzzle velocity in the 3,000 fps range, mid-sized bullet weights found to be ideal for taking deer-sized game and good enough for some larger stuff with good design and placement. For 2020, Nosler has chosen to take the venerable 270 caliber to a new level with the introduction of the all-new 27 Nosler. So, I dont believe any 7mm hits as hard as a .30-caliber. Although perhaps not an ideal extreme range cartridge, the .338 shoots surprisingly flat. If recoil doesnt bother you, Id look hard at the .300 WSM, .325 WSM, even the new 6.8 Western, agonize over a 24-inch barrel, and probably compromise with a 23-inch barrel. Drawbacks to the .28 Nosler. Loaded with a 150gr bullet, the 27 Nosler has an additional 800ft/lbs. If you need to balance reach and punch with minimal weight, Id look to the 7mm magnums pushing 150- to 175-grain bullets. With the right bullets, it can actually hit harder than the 375 H&H Magnum at longer ranges. In the other case, it bucked around for about 5 seconds before expiring. Kali Parmley, Editor-in-chief of Bakccountry Hunter speaks with Bret Maffet of Franchi Firearms to discuss the all new Momentum All Terrain Elite. But if youre going to this narrow caliber, choose one with more velocity than the Creedmoor. So, the most likely candidate today is a modern .45-70 lever-action, either a Marlin or Henry in the popular guide gun configuration, short barrel with easy scope mounting. Mag., .270 WSM, and 27 Nosler step it up a few notches, and the 6.8 Western with its fast twist barrels nudges bullet weights to the upper end of the 7mm line up. However, strong-bodied hunters who will only shoot 20 shots in a practice session and a few shots for hunting will likely have no trouble at all. because the latter rolls out those wide, .338-inch diameter 250-grain bullets. If you plan to order your ammunition online, the best elk hunting cartridge Ive seen is probably the Nosler 160-grain Trophy Grade ammunition with a good old Partition bullet. From a distance, it looks like your typical Bobcat. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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Mag., and you understand why its not just the most popular .300 magnum of all time, but one of the best all-round elk calibers of all time. The problem with the medium magnums (over .30 and less than .375): There are few to choose from, and only the .338 is genuinely popular with a robust selection of loads. In addition to the caliber, Nosler also introduced new 165gr . Our editors have hand-picked these essential pieces of gear to make you a more successful hunter when you hit the game trails this season. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. The 27 Nosler can . No matter, people are shooting at elk at longer ranges, and todays rifles, optics, and bullets will get there. Unless Sig Sauers new .277 SIG Fury is more your style. The 28 Nosler, on the other hand, was introduced in 2015 and is known for its excellent accuracy and energy retention. more than the 270 WSM at the muzzle. One of the most popular magnums of all time. Mag., .338 RUM, .338 Lapua Mag., and massive .338-378 Wby. Mag. Because of lower pressure and achieving full velocity with less powder, the .30-06 has less felt recoil than a 7mm Remington Magnum. Adequate, but be careful and watch the distance. .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. Bottles & 12-oz. Weatherbys .300 magnum had been dazzling magnum fans since the mid 1940s, but it was a full-length magnum caliber available only in expensive custom or Weatherby Rifles. For starters, it burns more powder. may have inspired Winchester to bring out its marvelous .300 magnum the very next year. This little brother to the .338 Win. That increased capacity, coupled with modern powders, allows the 27 Nosler to drive bullets faster and flatter than ever before. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. Required fields are marked *. but doesnt kick as hard. Ron Spomer In comparison a 250-grain slug at 2,600 fps will churn up just 3,750 ft-lb. Any cartridge in a caliber big enough to hit an elk hard hits you hard, too. Publisher Kevin Steele is in the Beretta booth with Logan Killam, the Shotgun Product Manager, to discuss the all new Beretta A300 Ultima Turkey. . The newest addition to the Nosler line of proprietary cartridges is the 27 Nosler. The cartridge fires a bullet with a diameter of .284 inches or 7mm. And he could get it in affordable rifles from several manufacturers. Question. Give a Gift The .338 Win. Mag. Figure another 30 fps velocity increase for every inch of barrel added and a 24-inch launchpad should nudged that 140-grain to 3,240 fps. of .414 or so, the 210-gr. The pieces of the .277 Sig Sauer cartridge are assembled via an internal pressure ring of some kind near the base. At extreme range, hits or misses may not be apparent, and in the late afternoon it will be dark long before you get there to look. You would get about 3,250 fps with the 26 Nosler with 140 grain bullets. Which begs the question: Why arent more bird hunters using them? They are still out there but getting scarce. That said, the .284-inch bullet has two advantages. May 28, 2019 By Layne Simpson. About 1:8 would be my guess. I put a Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25x scope on my rifle, so the finished setup weighed 31.2 ounces. Elk wont care one way or the other so long as you use a suitable bullet and park it properly. The classic was, is, and remains a lever-action chambered to something larger than .30-caliber. My picks for the best elk hunting calibers are what I consider the best, not the most popular. All Rights Reserved. Figure an 8-pound rifle spitting a 150-grain bullet slapping your shoulder with about 30- to 34 foot-pounds of energy at 16 fps. Both new rounds exceed the ballistics of the old one, but do it in different ways. Thats ok. Live and learn is a common aphorism for a reason. 1 Write a Review Q&A (2) Our Price: $110.99. Energy and velocity are more indicators of bullet performance ability, along with penetration at range. Chambered in .28 Nosler, this 8 pound, 8 ounce setup kicks quite hard. Not so long ago, I shot a nice Montana bull from the top of a ridge, down onto a little bench at 350 yards, 180-grain .30-06. Last year, I purchased a Browning X-Bolt Pro in .28 Nosler. Fully prepped, Nosler premium cartridge brass in 27 Nosler will be available in 25ct boxes. Based on the antique .404 Jeffery cartridge case, the 27 Nosler is the first new .277-caliber rifle cartridge . Or even ten. will handle the .338 Win. Slide up to some of the new 190-gr. Recoil is stout, but substantially less than any magnum .30. Absolutely! Its a bolt action looking quite a bit like an AR-15. Modern 6.5s, whether slow like the Creedmoor or fast like the PRC, are limited to 140-grain bullets, also light for elk-sized animals. This will be for shooting mono-metal bullets mostly for elk hunting. The Ammunition that I will be focusing on for the 27 Nosler are factory Nosler Trophy Grade 150 grain AccuBond and 165-grain AccuBond Long Range offerings. No rough-and-tough manly man in the 1960s was going to admit he couldnt handle that. One of the shots put the wildebeest flat on the ground immediately. Feb 27, 2006 5,121 173. re: new 27 nosler vs 28 nosler Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:43 pm to kengel2. Today most ammo makers also offer 225-grain bullets in a variety of controlled expansion configurations that retain mass well enough to penetrate better than the original 250-grain cup/core styles while delivering equal, sometimes more muzzle energy thanks to higher muzzle velocity. Re-barrel to the 27 Nosler and go kill elk. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. He wasnt quite prepared for the recoil when the rifle was mounted on his shoulder over a puffy coat. Mag. The .280 Ackley Improved is hot these days, flying about 100 fps behind the 7mm Rem. Another good choice for an elk bullet would be the standard 140 grain AccuBond. Start with the .30/30 Winchester and climb until your nose bleeds. With greater frontal area (than a .30) and heavy bullets, the .338 will do this. Inside of 500 yards the ballistics and energy are comparable. Most factory loads from a 24-inch barrel are rated 2,960 fps. The "new" .270s (27 Nosler and 6.8 Western), with faster twists and bullets up to 175 grains change the game. I have just always gravitated to the 7mm's over the 270 cartridges. I wanted it to be my hunt the world gun that I could use for hunting everything from wild hog and deer up to elk, wildebeest, waterbuck, and other large-bodied game. retains the title of best balanced elk caliber in it. IMR 7828, IMR 7977 and IMR 8133; Reloder 26 and Reloder 33; Hodgdons H1000 and H50BMG; all make good choices for the big case.