Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. Ref ID Be violent enough and fit right in. *shrugs*. Posts: 3446. Understaffed. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. As for the merchants in Goodsprings, I guess if you're ok with killing a doctor and a bartender for a 50% discount regular merchant, then go ahead. If you don't kill any you don't get vilified. Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. Reputation is specific to a certain group/location and is measured in both fame and infamy; you'll usually gain infamy if someone notices you committing a crime. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm. Circumstances, but circumstances can change. Map All rights reserved. Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. Where do you find the key for the 2nd floor of the broadcast building at Black Mountain? What I always do is during Ghost Town Gunfight, I only kill 3 or 4 of the Powder Gangers. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. Quests Press J to jump to the feed. Once you're past that point there's very little you can do. This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. Negative reputation yields the following: The nomadic army from the East is notoriously hard to impress, but incredibly easy to offend. Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). Accessing the "Squad Readiness Reports Terminal" on the front desk in the. Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. Speaking to him will initiate the I Fought the Law quest. Since there really isn't anything left to do there after the battle, it couldn't hurt. Through the back door of the visitor's center, the player character can enter the main prison yard. This is because the Courier's reputation with them will drop to the lowest rank possible (like Idolized to Wild Child or Liked to Soft-Hearted Devil). Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. Mayor is the only one who don't want to take part in any crime because he himself was a crime fighter, get put to the jail because he's too hardcore. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings Powder Ganger - The Vault Fallout Wiki - Fandom He sells chems and a few odds and ends. Here's the thing about stealing: Don't get caught. and our I killed some. He can unlock the door for a price of 100 caps. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. The prison has one main entrance, which is guarded by a Powder Ganger named Dawes. However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. fast-traveling away from HELIOS One after activating ARCHIMEDES before the notification of NCR Infamy has time to pop up), the player character will not receive the boost/penalty until the next time one travels to that location. The unlocked room next door has a copy of Lying, Congressional Style on the desk. They're hostile to the player for the most part, so they're just asking to get popped. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I wouldn't bother. The legion definitely has some bug, i always treated them like varmint shooting them whenever i saw them in my first game and they still talked to me and remained calm. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. yes, he won the lottery : r/falloutnewvegas Factions I completed Run Goodsprings Run and it gave me a Shunned reputation with the NCR. If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, followed by a 50, If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, the Legion will also provide various items within supply boxes outside of. Powder Ganger Overhaul at Fallout New Vegas - mods and community (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). IMO the best good guy plan is to not finish Ghost Town Gunfight until you do I Fought the Law. Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Nexus Mods. MetalGearGekko 11 years ago #1. But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. Forever hated, lacking food, warmth, and sanity? I never saw much reforming around here, myself. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. Please present your passport. Afterward, players lose reputation for killing a faction member regardless of a successful sneak kill unless that weapon is silenced and the player remains completely hidden. Powder gangers shoot me at sight in NCR correctional facility Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. A locked cell contains his "stash," consisting of bottle caps in an ammo container. Why did the NCR think it was a good idea to give convicts dynamite and to send a felon from their jail in California that is known for using explosives to commit crimes to the Mojave jail that was undermanned? Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. Try it, its a broken quest btw even if you complete it and kill eddie at the last quest thingy "i fought the law" the quest will stay unresolved.. meyers will bug out and the radio message will say you failed :\. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. If you complete Ghost Town Gunfight without personally killing Joe Cobb, I believe the reputation hit is mild enough not to turn the NCRCF permanently hostile. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was not rebuilt before agreeing to stage the attack on. With every faction except Goodsprings, the Boomers and Novac, reputation will reset to neutral. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. It worked for me. How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? Yeah, but given the circumstances the NCR are serving as the marshals, troopers and governor therefore they would have the power to pardon and deputize at their own discretion. Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). In both of these cases, the entrance remains locked from the inside, however. Ghost Town Gunfight | Fallout Wiki | Fandom If anything this taught me to save more often. For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. The Powder Gangers is a dead end. You lose karma for stealing, but it's more of a personal marker. Not all convicts are evil and malicious they just happen to be on the wrong side of the law, misguidance or they were setup and or given an unfair trial by corrupt and or incompetent governing. There are two cellblocks located within the courtyard. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. [Non-game 1] The prisoner population dispersed, with some following Cooke into Vault 19, and others staying with Eddie as Powder Gangers, and established camps around the correction facility. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. You have to be sneaking (crouched) and you have to be hidden (it'll say [HIDDEN] at the top of the screen when you're [HIDDEN],) to avoid gaining negative reputation with whatever faction you're stealing from. Seems like it would make more sense if it could have been negotiated with NCR to let Meyers be the sheriff then Meyers could deputize the other Neutral Powder gangers as his police force. That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. If you managed to get yourself vilified, you out of luck. Hostile is different. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. you can beam yourself inside the prison by using an outhouse inside (from outside) that you can see from the south part of the prison. NCR hit squads will warn the player character to change their reputation with NCR within three days or they will come after them, trying to kill the player character. Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). There are mods who bring back that cut content and it involves Meyers giving a speech to some previous Powder Gangers who help him defending Primm and bringing back the law. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. But, you loose a lot of rep with them if siding with Goodsprings. But there is something weird here. Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Ghoul Femgangers at Fallout New Vegas - mods and community Both Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte were successfully cured of, or convinced to seek help for, their additions (+12). Several functions may not work. The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with. ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. A positive reputation is required to receive the. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. The powder gangers residing at the prison just want freedom and to be left alone while the NCR want control. If Veronica had never been interacted with before becoming. #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. To exit the facility one must jump over the fence again using the guard tower stairs, use fast travel, or pickpocket the key from Dawes through the fence. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. But their mines are good tho. Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. Refusing to participate in this quest, as long as it is done politely, will still earn Fame, albeit much less (+1). This is a very simple mod, all it does is make Joe Cobb and his five Powder Ganger friends associated with the Fiends. I think you can give Boxcars a bunch of Med-X too to help ease his pain in Nipton. or having Idolized reputation), they will never become friendly to the Courier again. Don't join the powder gangers : Fallout: New Vegas With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. You see, Joe Cobb is part of a larger chain-gang called "Powder Gangers" and has a smaller gang ready to attack the town of Goodsprings. All rights reserved. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and pass a skill check for each positive comment (+2 each). [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter The ranges of reputation vary by faction. If they are wearing Powder Ganger clothing, Dawes will still talk to them and accept a bribe, but he will turn hostile as the player character gets closer. I need to stop beng vilified with the powder gangers so I can retake the prision. Terminals I don't think they attack you until you've been villified. I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. Five of the six towers have Powder Gangers posted at the top, and each contains minor stealable loot, consisting of mostly ammunition and healing items. 2 MauiWowieOwie 1 yr. ago The dialogue option to report dropping the radioactive waste will override the first and Astor will act as if the radioactive waste was dropped while the Legion was still present.). This may only happen when wiping out the location without help from the NCR. But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what? When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. One such gap in the fence is situated between the lookout tower and the visitors center and the other is located almost directly opposite it, along the eastern fence. They are introduced in Fallout: New Vegas as a large group of escaped convicts running amok on the I-15 highway area, harassing the small towns of Nipton, Goodsprings, and Primm. [1][2] The Powder Gangers became a scourge on the inhabitants of the region, attacking caravans along Interstate 15 and stealing supplies from settlers and workers. As a Moments subpage, all spoilers are unmarked as per policy. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. I mean disappeared too. Overview For example, if the player character wears Legion armor and kills an NCR soldier, Infamy will be gained, but will be reset to one's prior reputation upon the removal of the disguise. - posted in New Vegas Discussion: So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. Best. And if the player character is 'Idolized', they move down the chart to 'Wild Child'. The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. I killed some - GameFAQs Even if they are hostile to you. Warden's terminal Info Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). [4], Before the Great War, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female state prison. You've actually got to betray them to get that outcome. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order. Powder Gangers reputation (SOLVED) :: Fallout: New Vegas General Snipers form an effective perimeter around the facility. Helping them is way better than help good springs. shamelesscreature 2 yr. ago. Even if you earn rep they'll permanently hate you and shoot you on sight. They are going after the wrong objective. BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. I think you can also start Come Fly With Me just by entering the REPCONN Test Site, without talking to anyone in Novac. Whether or not the Courier has provoked Powder Gangers elsewhere, the Powder Gangers here are not hostile unless the player character has established a negative reputation with the faction overall. What is the advantage of helping Good Springs? All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. -spoilers-. Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Cass to be recruited as a companion again, despite her possible angered departure beforehand which caused her to leave. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. I've done the Powder Gangers quests, and quite frankly there just isn't any incentive to help them. Fallout: New Vegas reputations - Fallout Wiki | Fandom Warden Nathan EddieSergeant Lee (optional) | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." Shunned basically means they don't want anything to do with you, but not more than that. Fallout: New Vegas / Funny - TV Tropes There is only one person known by the name of Joe Cobb in association with the word "gang", and that is Joe Frank Cobb (a.k.a. I can't remember if Shunned reputation is enough to actually trigger a faction hostile-on-sight, though. Fallout: New Vegas. How to get "unshunned" in new Vegas : r/Fallout - reddit But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. ), So I've always sort of helped Ringo out in this mission but this time I decided to help the Powder Gangers. Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? - Fallout: New Vegas - GameFAQs NCR Correctional Facility appears only in Fallout: New Vegas . There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. Siding with the Powder Gangers in Goodsprings will get you Shunned by the NCR. If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? Some think that the reset of reputation is caused by committing an infamous act towards a faction while wearing that faction's clothing. I did the same when I reached novac and got shunned and now everyone attacks me on sight. Krystal Wilson. Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Negative reputation can be earned by things such as killing members of a group, being caught stealing, lying, being rude or treating people poorly, or completing quests for the opposite side. Powder gangers attack me even though idolized at base. Worsen the condition of an injured Boomer at the. Positive reputation yields the following: The military order is quite a bit demanding when it comes to establishing one's reputation with them. Fallout: New Vegas Walkthrough - GameSpot Hey all, I'm no new player to fallout but I've had a problem crop up. Wearing faction armor can be used to kill members of an opposing faction without gaining Infamy with that faction. Scout Primm and learn of the NCR's plans (+1). To not get vilified, do not kill every powderganger you encounter. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. The benefits and drawbacks of any given reputation depend on the group itself. Get enough of it and they'll start to attack on sight, but wearing faction-armour will disguise you (just be aware some NPCs can see through it). You know, what you are talking about was actually intended to be in the game but was cut. Maybe if they hadn't bothered to design the Prison Uniforms or hand place a bunch of empty whiskey bottles around the NCRCF facility they could have deleted the little part in the file that makes ash piles never go away, or they could have improved pathfinding for companions. As part of this quest, bands of Legion assassins will attack the player at, Admiring the purity of the Legion's justice when first accepting. Credits Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at a discount price. Always alone? Think of it as wanting to get an inside "recon" of the NCRCF before joining the NCR on an assault of the prison. A Powder Ganger wearing a guard uniform stands by the door. The facility is also under observation from the. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Cell name Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. That way you keep the bonuses of both, more or less.