Concerning the educational system in Conroe, small-town football was big in Texas. He was at rep 15 and Arthur walked into the gym with a couple of people. Anyway, review chapter 16 to find out all the how-tos. And Im glad he did. Make them alternate days, and try to rest on your off days. Who took a cookie from the cookie jar? Instead, the book was assigned to Carol Angstadt, of Rodales womens publishing group, who had never before been involved with a bodybuilding book. Mikes significant cardiac problems were discovered during a checkup, ruling out the possibility of a kidney transplant. He was so big that all he could wear to work were stretchable Ban-Lon shirts and Bugle-Boy pants. So, during the experiment, he was rebuilding previously existing levels of muscular size. But I dont think Arnolds triceps, nor forearms, were in the same category as Viators, Olivas, and Coes. The awesome Mentzer brothers, fuelled by their intense rivalry, show what they can do when they pump iron at the gym. In fact, we ended up chauffeuring Cooper to his hotel. Get ready for an incredible pump. It was a combination of factors that made Yates so huge I figure. With Arthur Jones Supervision, a Little Goes a Long Way. As you stated, however, theres a place for timed static contractions in exercising people who have certain limitations. Joness personal form when he trained himself was impeccable. In a local physique contest, however, Hutchins would have been pressed to finish in the top 10 (just kidding, Ken). Ellington Darden: Great question, in fact, I could make a winning case for each one, or the idea that they are equally important. Just like his brother he strongly believed in training with a high intensity doing heavy weights with only 6 to 8 reps. I dont believe Casey ever got his muscular, competitive body weight above 220. Drugs, hormone injections, implants, and who knows what else, have destroyed professional bodybuilding today. When Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franco Columbu visited the Nautilus headquarters in mid-November 1970, Viator weighed 215 pounds and impressed both of the professional champions. Rest 2 to 3 minutes Jones had driven from his home in Lake Helen, Florida, to Los Angeles and on the way back he stopped by Red Lerilles gym in Lafayette, Louisiana, and reassembled some of his initial Nautilus machines that he had displayed in California a week earlier. The men in the magazines that I admired were the classic physiques, such as Steve Reeves and John Grimek, as well as Ron Lacy, who won the Mr. America in 1957 and had terrific calves. Today, he weighs a lean 220 pounds and has muscular forearms, thick wrists, and a vise-like grip. That sounds like a long workout but marathon training sessions where common practice amongst the Golden Era Bodybuilders. By age 15 he weighed 165 pounds and could bench press 370 pounds. The 18-1/2 pounds of muscle occurred in 11 days, not 14. His breakfast includes: Half cup of orange juice; 1 cup of oatmeal; 1 cup low fat milk; 1 slice toast; 1 tablespoon butter; Lunch. Ray was concerned about this since he didnt want his brother to put too much stress on his body given that he knew he had cardiac issues. At that time, Nautilus had three, state-of-the-art television studios in Lake Helen. Ellington Darden: Ive trained Boyer Coe, Joe Means, Scott Wilson, and Ray Mentzer to name four. Drew Baye: Are you currently working on anything new and exciting? Tag: Ray Mentzer. . Kens parents would not permit him to play football. He developed Bergers illness. Disclaimer: This website is an educational service that provides general health information. And it can still be accomplished without drugs today. GONE. Drew Baye: What did you think of Mentzers Heavy-Duty books? As examples, you have a routine for thighs, calves, chest, arms, and waist. Casey Viators training history at Nautilus provides an interesting example. But I believe its a reasonable goal to aim for one-tenth of that number during the first year after publication. I trained him multiple times. Thus, taking 8 percent of that number indicates that 1,600,000 males are into HIT. Ray Mentzer who was the brother of Mike Mentzer was born in Pennsylvania on August 2, 1953. But when someone or something emerged, Mike would jump overboard or make himself invisible. One drawback is, the ROM gets awkward beyond 90 degrees in the latter exercise. Mike Mentzer (November 15, 1951 June 10, 2001), Ray Mentzer (August 2, 1953 June 12, 2001). Mike's younger brother Ray Mentzer (Mr. America 1979) discovered Mike's dead body. My methodology is simply to keep pushing at 100% force (or near as I can) until the force drops off significantly, rest a couple of seconds, and repeat until strength-levels drop way down and pain-levels become unbearable. Mike himself trained three times a week with 30-minute workouts . Drew Baye is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Crenshaw had 18-inch upper arms and 15-inch forearms, which were mighty impressive; but even more impressive was his neck, which must have measured at least 20 inches. Jones trained Casey 41 times, which was equal to approximately 4 months at the rate of 2.5 workouts a week. He started to sculpt his body after falling in love with the iron right away. This is something I will be covering in the book, with references. Drew Baye: Ive read that Ray Mentzer was somewhat of a comedian. Pullover Arthur Jones had some of that ability, too. If you have not developed the metabolic conditioning to follow these routines, then back off. However, a number of trainees seem to suffer overtraining even from such brief workouts once they genuinely achieve an intense level of effort. Food blog that features daily healthy recipes. As you age, your body undergoes changes With Valentines Day just around the corner, everyone is looking for gift ideas and ways to spend time with their special Jonathan Majors is a fitness and actor model featured in Fitness Magazines and Workout DVDs and has even been on the Have you ever wondered how to get bigger arms and why it is essential to have them? Some years ago, I saw all the records Jones kept from training Casey during 1970 and 1971. Ellington Darden: Yes he was. "The secret, if there is one, is high intensity. (The before-and-after photos confirmed that also.) In the end for me, I consider him a genius in his principles (as well as Yates, Jones, Viator, Ray Mentzer). High Intensity Training Versus High Volume Training. Do Your Hormones Affect Weight Gain and Loss. HIT, of course, is the system of high-intensity training developed by Arthur Jones and codified and popularized by Darden, who was director of research for Nautilus Sports/Medical Industries, the company Jones founded, for more than 20 years. Drew Baye: How about a little word, or phrase association test that relates to the bodybuilders youve trained or seen? Since they were a few of the forerunners of High Intensity Training, one question I get about them is: How intense was their training? High Intensity Training For Muscle Growth Ray, like his brother, trained using Heavy Duty High Tntensity Training. Promoted with an extensive Internet media campaign. 1976 Jr. Mr. America (Tall) His name was Wilbur Miller and in 1964 he deadlifted 715 pounds, while weighing 245 pounds, which was a world record at that time. Twenty reps, Arthur repeated, after asking us about his progress, hell, he can do 50 with each leg. Over the next three minutes, Viator not only did 50 reps, but 2 more for good measure. The Ray Mentzer story is one of success, but also tragedy. Calf Raise1 1/4 reps Then, he discusses how he merged his experiences into his latest publication, The New High Intensity Training Introduction HIT workouts for days afterwards. In fact, NTF workouts may speed recovery by supplying some of the chemistry to guard against atrophy and to facilitate active rest. He started competing in the most prestigious competitions all over America, establishing himself in the process. Andy McCutcheon and High Intensity Training. All of us should strive to win back those previous HIT believers. Halfway through the photo shoot, I could tell that Carol was quickly getting a handle on the subject matter. Pullover The reason his workouts were referred to as HIT (High-Intensity Training). I can now see why! Ellington Darden: Lou Schuler, who was recently appointed editor of Rodales newest magazine called, Mens Health MUSCLE, asked me the same question a while back. Thank goodness, Hutchins and I were not seated near Cooper, as our heads and necks needed rest. None of the suggestions (including exercise, diet, products or services) mentioned should be performed or otherwise used without clearance from your physician or health care provider. One thing Cooper appreciated, our mutual friend noted (and this was no joke), was that we had not raved to him about Nautilus. Edit: two DAYS not years, my b Fred, I guarantee . But it was no use. With the do-it-yourself approach, your results will probably never be maximum. None of that helped Mikes health, and unfortunately, he died of a heart attack in 2001 at the age of 49. (Delicious, Fresh, and Simple to make), Who is Michael Deluise? Surely, with the correct instruction and motivation, we can turn a reasonable percentage of them into HIT believers. This would not be a problem with quasi-isometric protocols like Static Holds and Max Contraction which follow isometric failure with a full or partial negative. Ellington Darden: Negative work (eccentric muscle action) was kicked around haphazardly in the physiology world before Jones came on the scene. When a trainee thought he was finished, Jones could always get at least two more reps from that individual. Also, Ive worked out with Ken Leistner, Pete Grymkowski, Robby Robinson, Jim Haislop, Richard Baldwin, Chris Dickerson, and Lee Haney. And Mike made at least one appearance at the old Lancaster Health Spa. He and some other guys would perform squats for hours on end. Then, he discusses how he merged his experiences into his latest publication, The New High Intensity Training. Heavy Duty: Mike Mentzer's Most Productive Routine, by John Little. In fact, Ive never seen anybody better at keeping a relaxed face during HIT than Jones. One of the greatest bodybuilders of his time was Ray Mentzer. nurse at Ephrata Community Hospital years ago. Advertised in Muscle & Fitness and Ironman magazines (November and December 2004 issues). Arthur told Ray to put on his brightest, horizontal-striped shirt (he didnt want Martina to miss him) and be sure and drive the old, unwashed, company car, which had a broken air-conditioner (that meant hed have to roll down all the windows so air could circulate). Was their something in the environment or education system that motivated you guys into weight training? All of his strength plateaus were small and easily broken. By Steve Wedan (visit his website at www.SteveWedanArt.com). I am in no way against slow reps a person is better off moving too slowly than too quickly during exercise I just havent seen any convincing evidence that moving any more slowly during exercise than necessary to maintain strict form provides any additional benefit in terms of strength or hypertrophy. In peak condition, Caseys right arm was 19-5/16 inches, Olivas was 20-1/8 inches, and Coes was 18-7/16 inches. Ellington Darden: Jones said he had every intention of training his legs, but when he arrived he had a bit of a chest cold. Friday Kens exercise/recreation section explained how to define exercise (which involved disciplined overload and was not fun), and then how to separate it from recreation (which required no overload and was enjoyable). After a while, we would have to pin additional weight on most of the Nautilus machines. Drew Baye: Ken Hutchins, the architect behind the SuperSlow philosophy, and you grew up in the same town in Texas. Drew Baye: Dr. Darden, which do you think is more important in getting the best results from HIT, intensity or form? After graduating from high school, he worked in United States Air Force and started working out 3 hours a day and 6 days a week. So read on. Ray found out he had kidney issues in 1999. I remember coming in on a Monday and Benny informed me that Ray had squatted 900 that past Saturday. A situation of increase and decline Less than 48 hours after Mikes passing, he passed away, leaving the bodybuilding community in complete darkness. Ellington Darden: Actually, I understated the time period. Jones began immediately training Viator on a three-times-per-week schedule, and true to his expectations, Viator started growing. But both are real killers, maybe try it sometime. Ellington Darden: I like SuperSlow. Chest & Back. When Jones asked him to flex his arm, his forearm mass seemed to jettison his biceps into a much higher than anticipated mound of muscle. As HIT decreased its following from 16 to 8 percent, high-volume training (HVT) increased its numbers from 16 to 24 percent. Life is too short to be small. That curveball sent Martina scrambling for a phone. One workout every 96 to 120 hours, depending on how my . Question: Given your disdain for slow rep training, why did you not ask Dr. Darden specific questions as to why he felt slow training was so beneficial (which he does). Ray frequently rested completely for 34 days after his rigorous training sessions. We both tried at least a half-dozen times each, to wedge a comment into Coopers dissertation. I first noticed McCutcheon six years ago, when close-ups of his arms and torso were featured on the award-winning Bowflex commercial. Squat Chin They have a New York City office, but the majority of their publishing house in located in Emmaus, Pennsylvania, which is a quaint community in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. The downward spiral began at this point. Dumbell Flye Generally, Mike Mentzers writings, success in contests, and inspiring photographs influenced bodybuilders everywhere to train harder and briefer. Mike Mentzer's brother, Ray, put three-eights on an inch on his presumably larger upper arm in six weeks, performing no more direct arm work that chins and dips. But trainees have found overall strength and size increases as a result of squatting - even when it is the only exercise performed for long periods. Triceps ExtensionSuper-slow Tricep Extensions- 1 x 10 reps, Wednesday Arthur Jones frequently said that when he trained Viator, Casey got bigger and leaner, by the day. Also make sure to increase the weight in a particular exercise whenever possible. Wood supervised Viator for six weeks and reported back to Jones that he had trouble getting Viator to give him his best effort. Does McCutcheon actually train on Bowflex? Ken always came back for more, and perhaps most importantly, asked intelligent questions. We can thank Arthur Jones for that. Hutchins lifts, he said, always motivated the players to get stronger, but none ever exceeded Kens poundages. Ray neglected to tell Martina that there were dangerous crocodiles inside. Ray quickly surpassed the 250 lb weight threshold thanks to an excessive intake of calories. From an initial body weight of 198 pounds, three weeks later Viator weighed 205 pounds and he easily won the Teenage Mr. America. Assuming you understand the meaning of deep commitment and very hard work, that routine will guide you to significant gains. Bench Press At the age of 18 he started competing in physique competitions, and two years later in . In 1978, at Sean Harringtons Nautilus club in Los Angeles, I witnessed Mike go through a true HIT workout. In my mind, Im thinking . One reason the squat is considered such a great overall exercise is the sheer volume of muscle the movement exercises. Squats - 1 x 16 reps Not surprising to me, the addition of 18-1/2 pounds of muscle increased his resting metabolic rate by 530 calories, or 28.6 calories per pound of added muscle per day. Exercises that required a great deal of intensity in a short amount of time were the focus of heavy-duty training. Likewise, the indirect effect ought to be greater as well. I once read about Ray Mentzer training legs once a month! On June 12th, in York, Pennsylvania, at the 1971 Mr. America, Casey weighed 218 pounds and displayed his dominance by winning the main title and five of the six subdivisions . . I learned how to do these things by reading and "digesting" the works of novelist/philosopher, Ayn Rand. Born: Mike and Ray Mentzer Heavy Duty Training Mentzer's Lost Heavy Duty Secrets. One of the most intense training regimes out there for bodybuilding is known as the "Heavy Duty" method. Remembered for their contributions to bodybuilding and their influence on how people train forever. Drew Baye: While its important not to workout too long or too often, do you think that many high intensity training enthusiasts have gotten carried away with reducing the volume and frequency of their training? Ray was forced to wait for a different donor. In 1970, when Hutchins graduated, the high school was five times larger and Ken was the strongest male in school. I choose to remember the drug-free bodybuilders who influenced me when I was growing up. Perhaps during the early 1970s, when he was training so many bodybuilders, it was simply easier to drive home intensity, than be so concerned with form. Mike continued to train and excelled in the gym and his academic pursuits. This can be carried to a logical extreme. . Look at the workout accompanying this article for a few minutes. He was thoroughly worn out and his muscles were primed for rest by the 45-minute mark. Mike Mentzer Photo Album. But now, judging from the photo spreads in the magazines, its ridiculous. Ellington Darden: Actually, I guess what Im saying is that if you want to get the best-possible results from HIT, you must have Arthur Jones as your personal trainer. Because thats now my age and someone needs to write sensibly for this group of men. Multiple sets, warm ups working up to heavy all out sets but there were no negatives or forced reps. But as I look back on my 45 years of bodybuilding experience, combined with the thousands and thousands of individuals Ive trained (and observed training), I can say with confidence that more people would profit from an understanding and application of proper form, than from proper intensity. We bid him good night and invited him to visit us the next day at the Nautilus headquarters, if time allowed. I think the major limiting factor to true isometrics is the lack of negative work which appears to be the most important part of the exercise for stimulating strength and size gains, and the lack of full-range strength improvement. Doesn't he realize I plan to win Mr. America next year looking like Larry Scott? But they can be fairly close and still very significant. Mike suffered a heart attack while he was sleeping. Ray handled the entire weight stack, 500 pounds, on the Nautilus duo-squat machine with ease. First, you need to have access to an efficient leg-press machine, one that you can adjust by moving the seat forward to prevent you from locking the knees. This is where his training progressed. Doing low reps with a big weight was one of Rays main training tenets. But my books differences can be grouped as follows: History: In my opinion, Arthur Jones, more than any single individual, developed high intensity training. Hey Fred, glad you like the interview. As a result, Hudlow made steady progress for the entire 6 months that I trained him. Then, the high altitude associated with being in the mountains of Fort Collins, Colorado, had him feeling somewhat dizzy, especially during his workout. "Many bodybuilders sell themselves short. But Mike was unreceptive. Ray kept up his arduous training in 1983 while utilizing different programs. Hutchins and I both has access to weights through the school system. Legs. Hutchins was a beginner and I had been training seriously for a number of years. Theres a lot of the interesting stuff concerning Arnold and Arthur in chapter 5: How HIT Humbled Schwarzenegger. Arnold, for perhaps multiple reasons, couldnt get the hang of high-intensity training the Arthur Jones way. If any nontheoretical, real-life example will serve to prove the efficacy of indirect effect. We never heard from him. I think it would be a great boon if it were discovered that it is possible to achieve optimal or near-optimal strength-training without equipment. The only possible mechanism I can see working against isometrics is if the load is needed to shock the muscles into contracting more strongly than is possible voluntarily, even where the isometric trainer is very experienced and determined. Breakfast. Ray Mentzer's experience is it. Mike Mentzer died in 2001 at 49. Born in 1941, Franco Columbu was a Strongman competitor and bodybuilder who won two Mr. Olympia titles: in 1976 and 1981. John Little. Joness measured Arnolds flexed right upper arm cold at 19-1/2 inches. I thought Mike would have thrived being around Nautilus and Arthur Jones. Answer: To paraphrase Arthur Jones, Rather than the best, Ill tell you the one that I like the least, which will be the routine that I need the most..